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TOPIC: [OFF] malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1??

[INV]malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1?? 28 Apr 2014 23:00 #19832

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need help from some professionals

this player is aiming pretty directly into enemy before placing first shots, nearly no spread of fired bullets
for me it looks like a lowfov with pretty close range. :??:
I'm pretty unsure about the fast and direct aiming... If it's damn hot skill... why does he never turn back, when being shot in his players back???


pls. check sanc-demo first...



I've got some more like nam... but they are much longer and the maps are much closer than sanc
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[INV]malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1?? 28 Apr 2014 23:26 #19835

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I found no situation to be able to find AB lowfov proofs but i think on the demo of sanctuary there are tracks of WH.

Need more opinions about sanc ;)

I didn't check nam for now.

EDIT :

No proof of AB on nam too but seems to be WHacking.
Last Edit: 28 Apr 2014 23:33 by cliclic.
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[INV]malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1?? 29 Apr 2014 18:26 #19850

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he was playing again from different PC but same IP...

here's the demo
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[INV]malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1?? 29 Apr 2014 18:41 #19851

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3rd GUID was created after 2nd malaguetta was banned

awaiting 4th GUID or permban
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[INV]malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1?? 29 Apr 2014 18:49 #19852

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reconnected as #bigmac
!ban guid-hack

(static IP)



64768 #bigmac 1 Tuesday, 29/04/2014 (18:46) Tuesday, 29/04/2014 (18:48)
64767 malaguetta# 4 Tuesday, 29/04/2014 (18:39) Tuesday, 29/04/2014 (18:42)
64355 malaguetta* 25 Wednesday, 02/04/2014 (20:23) Tuesday, 29/04/2014 (13:30)
64354 malaguetta# 34 Wednesday, 02/04/2014 (20:02) Tuesday, 29/04/2014 (18:38)
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[INV]malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1?? 29 Apr 2014 20:35 #19858

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bonecrusher wrote:
3rd GUID was created after 2nd malaguetta was banned

awaiting 4th GUID or permban

I would have wait until the review of the demo by others seniors admins before a perm since if the demo don't show enough proofs for a perm it is us who made things bad before even if i don't like the changing guid thing. If the demos shows cheat then a permban will be deserved without discussions.
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[INV]malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1?? 30 Apr 2014 18:55 #19890

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guid number 5 is in da house: febra

here is a list in chronical order

Nr.1
2-weeks-ban for cheat-suspect added on added on Monday, 28/04/2014 (22:39)
www.clankrh.com/eclassic/clientdetails.php?game=1&id=64355

Nr. 2
2-weeks-ban for cheat-suspect added on Tuesday, 29/04/2014 (18:27)
www.clankrh.com/eclassic/clientdetails.php?game=1&id=64354

Nr. 3
2-weeks-ban for GUID-hack added on Tuesday, 29/04/2014 (18:40)
www.clankrh.com/eclassic/clientdetails.php?game=1&id=64767

Nr. 4
2-weeks-ban for GUID-hack added on Tuesday, 29/04/2014 (18:48)
www.clankrh.com/eclassic/clientdetails.php?game=1&id=64768

Nr. 5
2-weeks-ban for GUID-hack added on Wednesday, 30/04/2014 (18:54)
www.clankrh.com/eclassic/clientdetails.php?game=1&id=64777



~ ~ ~ To be continued ~ ~ ~
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Last Edit: 30 Apr 2014 18:56 by bonecrusher.
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[INV]malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1?? 01 May 2014 13:55 #19904

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bonecrusher wrote:
guid number 5 is in da house: febra

here is a list in chronical order

Nr.1
2-weeks-ban for cheat-suspect added on added on Monday, 28/04/2014 (22:39)
www.clankrh.com/eclassic/clientdetails.php?game=1&id=64355

Nr. 2
2-weeks-ban for cheat-suspect added on Tuesday, 29/04/2014 (18:27)
www.clankrh.com/eclassic/clientdetails.php?game=1&id=64354

Nr. 3
2-weeks-ban for GUID-hack added on Tuesday, 29/04/2014 (18:40)
www.clankrh.com/eclassic/clientdetails.php?game=1&id=64767

Nr. 4
2-weeks-ban for GUID-hack added on Tuesday, 29/04/2014 (18:48)
www.clankrh.com/eclassic/clientdetails.php?game=1&id=64768

Nr. 5
2-weeks-ban for GUID-hack added on Wednesday, 30/04/2014 (18:54)
www.clankrh.com/eclassic/clientdetails.php?game=1&id=64777


~ ~ ~ To be continued ~ ~ ~



Nr. 6
2-weeks-ban for GUID-hack added on Thursday, 01/05/2014 (13:46)
www.clankrh.com/eclassic//clientdetails.php?game=1&id=64795




I pretty don't care anymore if this guy used a hack or not... 4 days old demo only got comment from cliclic, who wasnt sure, if this was a hacker or not and asked for more opinions...
This guy tries to fool admins and underrun tempbans regularly...
I'm pretty nerved to ban this guy daily with a new GUID...


deleting guids to play again is reason enough for me!!!
next time I'll see him on a server he'll get a permban...
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[INV]malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1?? 01 May 2014 14:21 #19906

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Nr7.
PERMBANNED FOR GUID_HACK added on Thursday, 01/05/2014 (14:18)
www.clankrh.com/eclassic/clientdetails.php?game=1&id=64796

short time after next try with new guid Nr. 8:
www.clankrh.com/eclassic/clientdetails.php?game=1&id=64797



enough is enough...
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[INV]malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1?? 01 May 2014 14:26 #19907

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:angry:

I found several problems in this case.

1. We were agreed, that in not obvious cases (obvious is a 360o aimbot - because everything might look different online as viewing a demo later) we don't ban a player instantly, but add to follow list - before other admins check the demo.
2. The blue team was massievly overpowered, NAM map ended with 10:1 (no !min?)
3. Sanc map started (no admin balance at the beginning?), players in red screamed 1 red is AFK, what means (overpowered) blue team had 5, red team 3 active players.

What I would care more as admin to ensure fair balance for both teams. I don't think further action is requered here.
I found no cheat in these demos, just average play.

Thanks though.


PS: Here at KRH exests no such rule, nevertheless I suggest to keep this in mind:
kzh.clankrh.com/index.php/admin-rules

5. Do not use B3 commands while aliased (while using a different name).
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[INV]malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1?? 01 May 2014 14:55 #19910

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Sorry lamme, but i found several problems in here, too.

It lasts 4 days till another admin check this demo, cliclic saw a kind of WH, bonecrusher saw a kind of LF. Nobodyelse ever checked this demo or wrote some comments here.

So it means, that you accept, that a potential cheater can play 4 days on your servers, with any GUID he wants??? That is ridiculous!
LammeSnail wrote:
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PS: Here at KRH exests no such rule, nevertheless I suggest to keep this in mind:
kzh.clankrh.com/index.php/admin-rules

5. Do not use B3 commands while aliased (while using a different name).

So YOU think, GUID Spoofing, is okay! Then write it in your welcome message and have fun with all the hackers!

Btw. wich name should we use for B3 commands?????? We never used any alias for more then 1 week!!!!
And what is your problem with this? We caught a lot of cheaters in the last weeks, there it was no problem for you! Other admins do this by their own.

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[INV]malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1?? 01 May 2014 16:39 #19912

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i watch only the first demo (sanctuary). i did not see any strange scenes.
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[INV]malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1?? 01 May 2014 16:43 #19913

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I do not see any obvious signs of cheating in these demos.
Only some suspicious moments.
Indeed GUID Spoofing is not welcome. But perhaps avoiding the ban, it is a form of protest. Maybe he considers unfair ban. Although he had to come to the forum for clarification.
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[INV]malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1?? 01 May 2014 17:06 #19914

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I noticed this topic first when there were 4 or 5 answers, the last was from Clic.
So for me this case was cleared and i doesnt checked the content.
Now i see you need some explanations here.bonecrusher wrote:
this player is aiming pretty directly into enemy before placing first shots, nearly no spread of fired bullets
for me it looks like a lowfov with pretty close range. :??:
I'm pretty unsure about the fast and direct aiming... If it's damn hot skill... why does he never turn back, when being shot in his players back???

You noticed that he always aims to torso and never aims to head.
Thats correct.
Its not "damn hot skill" or lowfov , its much more simplier.
You all know this movements very well from an other player! SMG ;)
This guy is playing nearby only with tastatur!
He only rarely jumps and when hes in hard action you will see that he doesnt aims to the head , higher hits are coming only by fast and (un)controlled moves.He never checks higher or deeper points by moving the mouse.
Maybe he really prefers to play with tastatur because hes an old Doomer or maybe he have a handicap like SMG and cant play with mouse for a longer time.This would explain why he never turns back when get shooted in the back.;)
A good example that jumping skills are fine for moving fast but for strong gameplay and high scoring jumping skills are not obligate! Check older demos of SMG and you will see what i mean.

@ Controller: ya, maybe a form of protest BUT wrong.
Risking a permban instead of contacting the forum isnt that smart, righty right?

For further questions feel free to contact seniors by PM in forum , this would be helpful in future when a topic isnt answered by a senior in 2 or 3 days.
Legalise the Balisongs !
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[INV]malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1?? 01 May 2014 18:59 #19915

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So it means, that you accept, that a potential cheater can play 4 days on your servers, with any GUID he wants??? That is ridiculous!

Makes it fun or something for you to accuse me?
I have a life. Believe me I can be busy.
My son had a graduation yesterday, I work and have other things to do and besides all this I have some health issues in the last days: flu or something, hard to breathe evenings.
BUT I still didn't stop answering forum posts.

About watching 4.1 demos: I moved to play on 4.2, so usually I run 4.2 on my computer (and stay afk on 4.2 FUNNY to attrackt players) when it is turned on.
To view 4.1 demos I have to quit 4.2, etc...

My luck I have helpful friends often online, and they help me a lot about demos.
In this case I determined that some days passed by without unanimous judgment so I watched the demos.

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...that a potential cheater can play 4 days on your servers...

:??:

cheesecake wrote:
So YOU think, GUID Spoofing, is okay! Then write it in your welcome message and have fun with all the hackers!

LammeSnail wrote:
So by these we can permban annoying GUID hackers, although I prefer to inform them BEFORE the permban what they risk. So I suggest to give to the player proper information and tempban 2nd time (before permban).
On KRH servers we usually didn't ban only for GUID hack, in most of the cases it was with some cheating.

From here:
clankrh.com/index.php/hu/component/kunen...nions-and-help#19883


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Btw. wich name should we use for B3 commands?????? We never used any alias for more then 1 week!!!!

Maybe your admin name you were appointed. I don't have problem with using LammeSnail always.
Believe me players will respect you more as admin if they can recognize you.


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And what is your problem with this? We caught a lot of cheaters in the last weeks, there it was no problem for you! Other admins do this by their own.

:angry:


With us or with me? There is no problem with you (aside from insulting the server owner) and I appreciate all your help.
And please don't miss my advices about balancing the teams.
Nothing personal.

And feel free to donate us. Thanks.
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[INV]malaguetta* => lfov on classic 4.1?? 02 May 2014 00:07 #19921

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To avoid the problem of knowing if the case is cleared, it would be good that the senior who start to answer add on the begining of the topic name those tags which will help us know if the case is closed or not :

[INV] = > investigation
[OFF] => player is clean and no more opinions are needed
[BAN] => player is permbanned

We will just have to change the topic name according to the situation, since all seniors have global moderator status all have the right to change topic names.
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Ohh Cont you are right, I forgot to add it, now it's done, sorry. Have fun! :)

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I changed the bots to regular ones, pls try them. CU HF

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